Much truth has been hidden from us. I am constantly refining my perspectives and perceptions. I rely, as I'm sure you do based on what you've shared of your history, largely on my intuition. If something "rings true" to me, I'm inclined toward it, at least while I investigate. If my Bullshit Meter goes "whoop whoop," my defenses go up, haha. I mean, if they lied to us about globe Earth and germ theory, I have no doubt that there are many, many more lies to uncover.☹️ I'd love to know what you find through your research and intuition!
I have a LOT of problems with the flat earth belief. First would be this...IF it is flat and from space looks like a giant pizza. WHERE is a single photograph showing it. Where is a single picture from someone that climbed to the top of the edge of the earth SOMEWHERE in the past millennia and drew pictures or took pictures or something.
If I look through a powerful telescope at Mars am I seeing a GLOBE or another flat place in space that is basically 2 dimensional as it has to be SOME thickness. So how THICK is the "flat earth"? They drill miles to get to oil. Is it 20 miles thick? 100? 500? at some point it become an awful thick "flat earth" that would be more like a cylindrical shaped object. What is on the OTHER flat side? And if it is flat on the top and flat on bottom what shape if you look at it from a distance are the sides? They can't be flat because flat earth people do believe that the earth is "round" but flat. So that if I were to look at it form the moon I would see a flat earth just as the moon must be flat if I'm looking at it from earth.
Am I shaking up that way of thinking at all?
Then there are the distance problems. Where is the CENTER of the flat earth. Once we can pin point that we can tell how many miles it is to other locations on the flat earth. Like if the CENTER is Washington DC (as most polytick shuns think it is) then how many miles is it to Moscow? To Bejing? To Anartica? To South Africa? To Hawaii. And if it is flat then how many miles is it from Bejing to Hawaii? How come it doesn't work out that way? Is it because we really don't know where the compass point would be on the flat earth?
No issues at all with flat earth belief...just a few hundred. Reason, logic and common sense made MY view of Earth into a globe.
I don't think Earth is flat like a pancake, just that it's not a globe. I think it must be hundreds of miles thick at the very least.
Also, the words, charts, graphs, and speculation by any and all industry/institution "experts" (oil moguls, in this case) ought to be researched extensively. They busy us in indoctrination camps and mindless "jobs" in order to distract us from their myriad lies, and I would hope that those of us waking up to the horror are doing our best to separate the lies from Truth.
Just using observations of the night sky, I think one can determine whether the earth is spinning or the sky is spinning.
If you happen to live in the northern hemisphere you will observe the night sky rotating counterclockwise around a central point above the North Pole. If you happen to live in the southern hemisphere you will observe the night sky rotating clockwise (the opposite direction!) around a completely different (!) central point. If you happen to live on the equator you will observe the night sky rotating, but not around any central point, but straight up and over your head from east to west.
Were the earth actually flat and the whole sky actually spinning there is no explanation for the strange observations of the sky spinning differently based on where you are standing on a flat plane.
However, if the earth is a very large globe spinning slowly this would explain the different observations of the night sky. And spinning slowly because it takes 24 hours to spin exactly one time around its axis. That is half the speed of the hour hand going around the face of an analog clock.
So, based on observations of the night sky from different points on the earth you can use your own discernment about what is more likely: stationary earth, spinning sky (but spinning differently based on where you’re standing), or slowly spinning earth.
Also, using a telescope or even just a decent pair of binoculars you can observe the planets, which are always round, regardless of the direction or angle at which you view them. Only spheroids have this property. Also watching the phases of the moon you can see it is spherical with only the side facing the sun being illuminated.
That all seems to make sense until one considers this:
On a sphere that is even *slowly* spinning, how does all of the bodies of water stay contained on the earth instead of spilling out? If the answer is something like "gravity" or "electromagnetic frequencies," why don't either of those properties work for me when I have a cup filled with water and I spin it around, whether quickly or slowly?
Also, what if Earth IS a sphere, but the "globe" part is what is known as the firmament? In other words, there is a spherical "shell" around a flat-ish planet.
Just some thoughts, and with all due respect. I am working through what I see as gaping holes in globe theory.
The effect called gravity is dependent on the mass of the object (and distance). The earth is many times greater in size/mass than anything else close to it. Therefore, any gravitational effects between smaller objects close to the earth are just not as powerful as the “pull” of the earth itself. So while there is a very small effect between the cup and the water, the mass of the earth is pulling on both by an overwhelming amount so that the small effect appears nonexistent.
The mass of the earth is pulling everything from every direction all at once and that is also pulling the “firmament” from all directions, which is “the water above,” or water vapor and air. The “pull” has a greater effect on denser material (rocks, metals, dirt) and a slightly lesser effect on lighter material so that the denser material is closer to the center and the lighter is farther out. But because this “force” pulls equally in all directions at the same time, the result will always be spherical. No other shape can accommodate this equality.
A fascinating theory I came across recently suggests that for “matter” to even exist it must consume ether so what we call the “pull of gravity” is really the rush of ether towards the object consuming it. But still, the mass of the earth is so much greater than objects on it the rush of ether to “feed” it dwarfs that needed to “feed” those smaller objects so we again don’t notice it. And the object will “feed” on the ether equally from all directions which still suggests a spherical shape.
I’m not suggesting that the “globe model” is perfectly correct or indisputable or beyond question. I’m only suggesting that there are observations that make sense using that model that aren’t accounted for by the flat earth model.
Thank you for the information. I still have many, many questions! I mean, what about little puddles that don't have a lot of mass? And that "rush of ether towards the object consuming it" theory kinda sounds like Earth is a vampire.🧛🏻♂️😳 That doesn't sound very Divine to me!☹️
Also, just to be clear, I don't like the phrase "flat earth" and I try to explain my sense based experience of earth rather than follow some physics "experts."
Anyway, we can agree to disagree at this point, since I've got work to do for my clients and for myself!💖
Thanks for the link. Your article and points are well-taken.
I personally don't believe the Earth is flat like a pancake, but more circular in shape with a thickness of perhaps many tens of miles deep, or more. Also, the Earth is clearly not flat, but has variegated convex and concave terrain.
For myself, gravity theory with regards to globe Earth is one of most *wondrous* and complex proposals. With the globers also sticking to the notion that Earth is spinning wildly fast on a polar axis while *also* circumnavigating the Sun at high speed, I find it difficult to believe that our Divine Architect would make this the case. Would it not be more simple and effective to create a thick, stable, disk-like planet (with terrain) that does not require gravity so harsh that water can remain in place on the bottom of a ball, let alone water everywhere not being flung off the planet during its supposed high-speed rotations?
Also, why is a compass not a globe, but a circle generally held flat to the Earth for proper functionality?
Finally, NASA did not invent flat-earth. People throughout millennia have depicted Earth as not-a-spinning-ball. NASA did and still does, however, propagate mostly lies. In fact, like all other institutions, agencies, and governments, they mock us at every turn.
I don't care to get into a pissing match with anyone about this issue, I'm just learning to trust my God-given senses. And right now, I'm having a hard time "sensing" that the Earth is a ball, spinning at high speed on an axis while traveling at high speed around the Sun. It doesn't mean I'm not going to continue asking questions about everything I was taught.
I agree on the no globe theory, but need to do a dive into the articles you referenced for the God/satan parts. Interesting idea!
Much truth has been hidden from us. I am constantly refining my perspectives and perceptions. I rely, as I'm sure you do based on what you've shared of your history, largely on my intuition. If something "rings true" to me, I'm inclined toward it, at least while I investigate. If my Bullshit Meter goes "whoop whoop," my defenses go up, haha. I mean, if they lied to us about globe Earth and germ theory, I have no doubt that there are many, many more lies to uncover.☹️ I'd love to know what you find through your research and intuition!
In addition to my intuition, if the ideas are maligned by the experts i know i'm on the right track!
Precisely!
I have a LOT of problems with the flat earth belief. First would be this...IF it is flat and from space looks like a giant pizza. WHERE is a single photograph showing it. Where is a single picture from someone that climbed to the top of the edge of the earth SOMEWHERE in the past millennia and drew pictures or took pictures or something.
If I look through a powerful telescope at Mars am I seeing a GLOBE or another flat place in space that is basically 2 dimensional as it has to be SOME thickness. So how THICK is the "flat earth"? They drill miles to get to oil. Is it 20 miles thick? 100? 500? at some point it become an awful thick "flat earth" that would be more like a cylindrical shaped object. What is on the OTHER flat side? And if it is flat on the top and flat on bottom what shape if you look at it from a distance are the sides? They can't be flat because flat earth people do believe that the earth is "round" but flat. So that if I were to look at it form the moon I would see a flat earth just as the moon must be flat if I'm looking at it from earth.
Am I shaking up that way of thinking at all?
Then there are the distance problems. Where is the CENTER of the flat earth. Once we can pin point that we can tell how many miles it is to other locations on the flat earth. Like if the CENTER is Washington DC (as most polytick shuns think it is) then how many miles is it to Moscow? To Bejing? To Anartica? To South Africa? To Hawaii. And if it is flat then how many miles is it from Bejing to Hawaii? How come it doesn't work out that way? Is it because we really don't know where the compass point would be on the flat earth?
No issues at all with flat earth belief...just a few hundred. Reason, logic and common sense made MY view of Earth into a globe.
I don't think Earth is flat like a pancake, just that it's not a globe. I think it must be hundreds of miles thick at the very least.
Also, the words, charts, graphs, and speculation by any and all industry/institution "experts" (oil moguls, in this case) ought to be researched extensively. They busy us in indoctrination camps and mindless "jobs" in order to distract us from their myriad lies, and I would hope that those of us waking up to the horror are doing our best to separate the lies from Truth.
Just using observations of the night sky, I think one can determine whether the earth is spinning or the sky is spinning.
If you happen to live in the northern hemisphere you will observe the night sky rotating counterclockwise around a central point above the North Pole. If you happen to live in the southern hemisphere you will observe the night sky rotating clockwise (the opposite direction!) around a completely different (!) central point. If you happen to live on the equator you will observe the night sky rotating, but not around any central point, but straight up and over your head from east to west.
Were the earth actually flat and the whole sky actually spinning there is no explanation for the strange observations of the sky spinning differently based on where you are standing on a flat plane.
However, if the earth is a very large globe spinning slowly this would explain the different observations of the night sky. And spinning slowly because it takes 24 hours to spin exactly one time around its axis. That is half the speed of the hour hand going around the face of an analog clock.
So, based on observations of the night sky from different points on the earth you can use your own discernment about what is more likely: stationary earth, spinning sky (but spinning differently based on where you’re standing), or slowly spinning earth.
Also, using a telescope or even just a decent pair of binoculars you can observe the planets, which are always round, regardless of the direction or angle at which you view them. Only spheroids have this property. Also watching the phases of the moon you can see it is spherical with only the side facing the sun being illuminated.
That all seems to make sense until one considers this:
On a sphere that is even *slowly* spinning, how does all of the bodies of water stay contained on the earth instead of spilling out? If the answer is something like "gravity" or "electromagnetic frequencies," why don't either of those properties work for me when I have a cup filled with water and I spin it around, whether quickly or slowly?
Also, what if Earth IS a sphere, but the "globe" part is what is known as the firmament? In other words, there is a spherical "shell" around a flat-ish planet.
Just some thoughts, and with all due respect. I am working through what I see as gaping holes in globe theory.
The effect called gravity is dependent on the mass of the object (and distance). The earth is many times greater in size/mass than anything else close to it. Therefore, any gravitational effects between smaller objects close to the earth are just not as powerful as the “pull” of the earth itself. So while there is a very small effect between the cup and the water, the mass of the earth is pulling on both by an overwhelming amount so that the small effect appears nonexistent.
The mass of the earth is pulling everything from every direction all at once and that is also pulling the “firmament” from all directions, which is “the water above,” or water vapor and air. The “pull” has a greater effect on denser material (rocks, metals, dirt) and a slightly lesser effect on lighter material so that the denser material is closer to the center and the lighter is farther out. But because this “force” pulls equally in all directions at the same time, the result will always be spherical. No other shape can accommodate this equality.
A fascinating theory I came across recently suggests that for “matter” to even exist it must consume ether so what we call the “pull of gravity” is really the rush of ether towards the object consuming it. But still, the mass of the earth is so much greater than objects on it the rush of ether to “feed” it dwarfs that needed to “feed” those smaller objects so we again don’t notice it. And the object will “feed” on the ether equally from all directions which still suggests a spherical shape.
I’m not suggesting that the “globe model” is perfectly correct or indisputable or beyond question. I’m only suggesting that there are observations that make sense using that model that aren’t accounted for by the flat earth model.
Thank you for the information. I still have many, many questions! I mean, what about little puddles that don't have a lot of mass? And that "rush of ether towards the object consuming it" theory kinda sounds like Earth is a vampire.🧛🏻♂️😳 That doesn't sound very Divine to me!☹️
Also, just to be clear, I don't like the phrase "flat earth" and I try to explain my sense based experience of earth rather than follow some physics "experts."
Anyway, we can agree to disagree at this point, since I've got work to do for my clients and for myself!💖
Just a quick follow up comment about ether.
I don’t see this as vampiric. Rather, all that exists is the present moment. Therefore creation is not a single event that happened in the past.
Matter must be created from nothing in the present, continually. Ether is the breath of God.
Thanks for the link. Your article and points are well-taken.
I personally don't believe the Earth is flat like a pancake, but more circular in shape with a thickness of perhaps many tens of miles deep, or more. Also, the Earth is clearly not flat, but has variegated convex and concave terrain.
For myself, gravity theory with regards to globe Earth is one of most *wondrous* and complex proposals. With the globers also sticking to the notion that Earth is spinning wildly fast on a polar axis while *also* circumnavigating the Sun at high speed, I find it difficult to believe that our Divine Architect would make this the case. Would it not be more simple and effective to create a thick, stable, disk-like planet (with terrain) that does not require gravity so harsh that water can remain in place on the bottom of a ball, let alone water everywhere not being flung off the planet during its supposed high-speed rotations?
Also, why is a compass not a globe, but a circle generally held flat to the Earth for proper functionality?
Finally, NASA did not invent flat-earth. People throughout millennia have depicted Earth as not-a-spinning-ball. NASA did and still does, however, propagate mostly lies. In fact, like all other institutions, agencies, and governments, they mock us at every turn.
I don't care to get into a pissing match with anyone about this issue, I'm just learning to trust my God-given senses. And right now, I'm having a hard time "sensing" that the Earth is a ball, spinning at high speed on an axis while traveling at high speed around the Sun. It doesn't mean I'm not going to continue asking questions about everything I was taught.